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		<title>By: freethinker</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction: names would NOT be of much significance.

I think I have ADD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction: names would NOT be of much significance.</p>
<p>I think I have ADD.</p>
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		<title>By: freethinker</title>
		<link>http://directionlessbones.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/naming-system/#comment-40</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we even need a &#039;naming system&#039;? Naming systems are just another aspect of civilization&#039;s social control and norm enforcement, and assign you your group identity based on sex, ethnicity, religion, caste and even class. And they can be a lot of trouble for you if you live somewhere with a lot of communal tension - you&#039;ll end up getting swept into unpleasant identity politics. Naming systems have way too much cultural baggage for me to care about them.

I don&#039;t see what you mean by egalitarian, because in a truly oppression-free society names would be of much significance. But an &#039;egalitarian&#039; naming system that comes to mind is the traditional Arab one: I could refer to you as &#039;Mother of&#039;, &#039;Daughter of&#039;, &#039;Father of&#039;, and &#039;Son of&#039;, or by a popular &#039;Kuniyat&#039;  that describes some special social role or even an eccentricity of yours. The Arabs were a nomadic people and had no need of a single &#039;official&#039; name, and so you could have more than one names (which makes digging through classical Muslim texts a little difficult).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we even need a &#8216;naming system&#8217;? Naming systems are just another aspect of civilization&#8217;s social control and norm enforcement, and assign you your group identity based on sex, ethnicity, religion, caste and even class. And they can be a lot of trouble for you if you live somewhere with a lot of communal tension &#8211; you&#8217;ll end up getting swept into unpleasant identity politics. Naming systems have way too much cultural baggage for me to care about them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see what you mean by egalitarian, because in a truly oppression-free society names would be of much significance. But an &#8216;egalitarian&#8217; naming system that comes to mind is the traditional Arab one: I could refer to you as &#8216;Mother of&#8217;, &#8216;Daughter of&#8217;, &#8216;Father of&#8217;, and &#8216;Son of&#8217;, or by a popular &#8216;Kuniyat&#8217;  that describes some special social role or even an eccentricity of yours. The Arabs were a nomadic people and had no need of a single &#8216;official&#8217; name, and so you could have more than one names (which makes digging through classical Muslim texts a little difficult).</p>
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		<title>By: SnowdropExplodes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the Scandinavian/Slavic tradition of the patronym, but perhaps updated so that a matronym could be used if desired.

For example, famous Icelandic TV broadcaster Magnus Magnusson is literally, &#039;Magnus, son of Magnus&quot;.   Traditionally, his daughter would be &quot;Magnusdottir&quot; (Bjork&#039;s second name is Godmundsdottir, according the the credits in her album sleeves - &quot;daughter of Godmund&quot;)

If women took their mother&#039;s name instead (for example, Lisa&#039;s daughter could be &quot;Lisadottir&quot;) then that would seem fairer.

Then you have single-parent families, so Lisa as a single mother might have a child called &quot;Simon Lisason&quot;, or Robert might have a child called &quot;Hannah Robertsdottir&quot;.

If I let my mind go wandering far from home (and it&#039;s really too little to be allowed out like that, but never mind) we could arrive at:

Robert Lisaspouse married to Lisa Robertspouse - or even, &quot;Lisarobert&quot; and &quot;Robertlisa&quot;.   Although, with serial divorces, that could get a bit weird again.   I guess I just want any naming system to allow for showing one&#039;s special connection to one&#039;s significant other.

I suppose the other &quot;traditional&quot; naming method was to take the name of one&#039;s place of birth.

I remember taking a name when we played &quot;Cowboys and Indians&quot; as a &quot;Big Chief&quot;, that described the conditions when i was born: &quot;Misty Morning&quot;.   Maybe some system like that would work.   Although, I can imagine a child being given the name &quot;Brian Rainingcatsanddogs&quot; or even &quot;Barbara Pissingitdownoutside&quot;, which might not be the best...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the Scandinavian/Slavic tradition of the patronym, but perhaps updated so that a matronym could be used if desired.</p>
<p>For example, famous Icelandic TV broadcaster Magnus Magnusson is literally, &#8216;Magnus, son of Magnus&#8221;.   Traditionally, his daughter would be &#8220;Magnusdottir&#8221; (Bjork&#8217;s second name is Godmundsdottir, according the the credits in her album sleeves &#8211; &#8220;daughter of Godmund&#8221;)</p>
<p>If women took their mother&#8217;s name instead (for example, Lisa&#8217;s daughter could be &#8220;Lisadottir&#8221;) then that would seem fairer.</p>
<p>Then you have single-parent families, so Lisa as a single mother might have a child called &#8220;Simon Lisason&#8221;, or Robert might have a child called &#8220;Hannah Robertsdottir&#8221;.</p>
<p>If I let my mind go wandering far from home (and it&#8217;s really too little to be allowed out like that, but never mind) we could arrive at:</p>
<p>Robert Lisaspouse married to Lisa Robertspouse &#8211; or even, &#8220;Lisarobert&#8221; and &#8220;Robertlisa&#8221;.   Although, with serial divorces, that could get a bit weird again.   I guess I just want any naming system to allow for showing one&#8217;s special connection to one&#8217;s significant other.</p>
<p>I suppose the other &#8220;traditional&#8221; naming method was to take the name of one&#8217;s place of birth.</p>
<p>I remember taking a name when we played &#8220;Cowboys and Indians&#8221; as a &#8220;Big Chief&#8221;, that described the conditions when i was born: &#8220;Misty Morning&#8221;.   Maybe some system like that would work.   Although, I can imagine a child being given the name &#8220;Brian Rainingcatsanddogs&#8221; or even &#8220;Barbara Pissingitdownoutside&#8221;, which might not be the best&#8230;!</p>
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